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					<title>The End of This Work</title>
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					<title>A Clear Vision of Eternity</title>
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					<title>The Divine Council of Nicea</title>
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					<title>How &#8220;Nous” Became a Trojan Horse For Secularism, and Why it is So Difficult to Translate</title>
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					<title>Paul&#8217;s &#8220;Works of the Law&#8221; in the Perspective of Second Century Reception, by Matthew J. Thomas &#8211; A Review</title>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2022 21:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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										<description><![CDATA[Easily the most important work in Pauline Studies, and likely in Biblical Studies as a whole, of the current decade is Matthew Thomas&#8217; published Oxford dissertation, Paul&#8217;s &#8220;Works of the Law&#8221; in the Perspective of Second Century Reception. This book is not merely an entry into the ongoing discussion of various perspectives on St. Paul&#8217;s understanding of salvation and relationship to Judaism. Thomas bridges the fields of New Testament studies and patristics to deliver what may be a definitive blow to the Lutheran, and thereby typical Protestant reading of St. Paul. As a published dissertation with minimal editing, this book is written in academic form and makes its arguments in academic fashion. If one follows through on the threads here… <a class="moretag" href="https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/wholecounsel/2022/01/08/pauls-works-of-the-law-in-the-perspective-of-second-century-reception-by-matthew-j-thomas-a-review/">  <i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </a><p>An <a href="https://blogs.ancientfaith.com">Ancient Faith Blog</a></p>]]></description>

																								<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1662" src="https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/wholecounsel/wp-content/uploads/sites/37/2022/01/91yaAbl3PL-e1641676018161.jpeg" alt="" width="240" height="360" />Easily the most important work in Pauline Studies, and likely in Biblical Studies as a whole, of the current decade is Matthew Thomas&#8217; published Oxford dissertation, <em>Paul&#8217;s &#8220;Works of the Law&#8221; in the Perspective of Second Century Reception</em>. This book is not merely an entry into the ongoing discussion of various perspectives on St. Paul&#8217;s understanding of salvation and relationship to Judaism. Thomas bridges the fields of New Testament studies and patristics to deliver what may be a definitive blow to the Lutheran, and thereby typical Protestant reading of St. Paul. As a published dissertation with minimal editing, this book is written in academic form and makes its arguments in academic fashion. If one follows through on the threads here exposed, however, the result should be a sea change in the Western reading of the Apostle.</p>
<p>Luther&#8217;s reading of St. Paul, which became the foundation for the Protestant Reformation, interpreted the Apostle&#8217;s references to &#8220;the works of the law&#8221; as referring to all works in general. As a correlate, this reading presumes that Judaism in the first century, and Pharisaism in particular, saw salvation as a matter of raw legalism. The Torah consisted of a series of hundreds of commandments, the keeping of which would earn one salvation. The traditional Protestant understanding is not that the Pharisees were wrong about the keeping of the Torah&#8217;s commandments earning salvation, but that humans, due to original sin and depravity, are unable to keep the Torah&#8217;s commandments perfectly and cannot earn it themselves. Further, by violating the commandments, humans have earned demerit, they are sinners. Christ, then, in this view, both takes the punishment for human sin, conceived of as legal demerit, and keeps all of the Torah&#8217;s commandments earning salvation for humans. This then means that not only are human persons not obligated to keep the Torah, but that to attempt to do so is to reject the perfect works of Christ and try to substitute one&#8217;s own.</p>
<p>This reading, standard within Protestant circles for 450 years, began to be questioned toward the end of the 20th century. Criticism focused not directly on the reading of St. Paul as such, but on the presuppositions outlined above that are required to support that reading. The finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls and advanced studies of Second Temple Judaism produced a very different picture of what the Judaism of the first century AD in general, and pharisaism in particular, from Luther&#8217;s presumptions. Pharisaism was not a legalistic system in which one earned personal salvation or eternal life. There was a lively sense of forgiveness and grace. Second Temple Judaism understood that the Torah contains means of dealing with human sinfulness, ways of purification and repentance. This then required that what St. Paul is calling &#8220;works of the Torah&#8221; couldn&#8217;t be referring to keeping the commandments or doing good. Further, the numerous places where the New Testament, and St. Paul himself, speak positively of the Torah never jibed well with the Lutheran reading. This school of thought became known as the &#8220;New Perspective on Paul.&#8221; It argued that the &#8220;works of the law&#8221; which St. Paul describes specifically refer to the works that were commanded to Israelites, and only Israelites, within the Torah. These particular commandments, for example circumcision and keeping kosher, were never given for Israel to enforce them upon their neighbors. Rather, they were commandments that distinguished Israel from her neighbors. These were the commandments which St. Paul would not see enforced upon Gentiles coming to worship the God of Israel through Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>Scholarship is, unfortunately, divided into enclosed compartments that rarely speak to one another. The vast majority of the literature regarding the old and new perspectives on Paul, as well as a newer school that seeks to understand St. Paul within Judaism, has taken place purely within the realm of New Testament studies. Arguments have therefore centered almost entirely on the precise reading of the Pauline Epistles and debating the relative merits of various constructions of Palestine Judaism in the first centuries BC and AD. Thomas brings a novel approach, which should not be so novel as it is. He asks the question, &#8220;How did the earliest Gentile Christians read and understand St. Paul?&#8221; Not only did these Christians have St. Paul himself within their historical memory, they lived alongside and had continuing interactions with early Rabbinic Judaism. It is, at best, a difficult argument to make that St. Paul&#8217;s immediate successors completely misunderstood him, whereas Western Europeans of the sixteenth or twentieth centuries finally solved the riddle of his meaning.</p>
<p>To find these first heirs and interpreters of St. Paul, Thomas turns to the second century AD. He systematically works through every extant document, Christian, Gnostic, or otherwise that mentions &#8220;works of the law.&#8221; Further, he treats every text which cites the Pauline texts that refer to these &#8220;works&#8221; as well as texts which speak about the relationship between the Apostle himself, and Christian in general, to the Torah and its commandments. He develops each text separately, seeking to draw out what it is saying as an individual text, rather than attempting to directly trace a through line. Nonetheless, over the course of his treatments in the books, a pattern emerges. There are of course, variations of perspectives within the text. Many of the texts, due to the subject of research, are dealing with Marcionism and other early heretical views. Despite this, the texts all ultimately understand St. Paul&#8217;s use of the phrase &#8220;works of the law&#8221; in a way consonant with the &#8220;new perspective,&#8221; and not with Martin Luther.</p>
<p>What makes this book so important is that the evidence here adduced makes the Lutheran perspective on St. Paul&#8217;s writings untenable. To maintain it, beyond a stubborn fideism, requires a belief that St. Paul completely misunderstood the Judaism which he practiced for much of his life and in which he had advanced to the status of being a teacher. It also requires that the churches founded by St. Paul and the Christians therein, whose grandparents had known him personally, completely misinterpreted his words and likewise completely misunderstood the religion of the Jewish communities in their midst. It requires that though the Apostle&#8217;s real teaching was lost for a millennium and a half, it was rediscovered by Western Europeans engaged in a contest with Rome. It requires that the resemblance between their reconstructed Pharisees and their caricatures of Rome is pure historical happenstance. It requires that in the late twentieth century, Protestant scholars came up with a new reading of St. Paul independently which somehow matches up with the mistaken reading of the first ancient commentators. Luther&#8217;s reading of St. Paul, which undergirds Protestant identity and the Protestant theological system, requires all of the stretching and twisting required above and more. Or, as Thomas here lays out, one can simply accept that St. Paul&#8217;s earliest readers got him right.</p>
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										<description><![CDATA[In the previous post, Eusebius of Caesarea&#8217;s attempt to divide out a second &#8220;Elder John&#8221; other than St. John the son of Zebedee was discussed.  He confabulated this figure in order to be able to utilize early patristic testimony to St. John, son of Zebedee as the author of the Gospel and First Epistle while rejecting the same testimony regarding the authorship of Revelation.  This despite the fathers in question making no such distinction between two Johns.  Despite St. Irenaeus of Lyons, St. John&#8217;s spiritual grandson, giving the date and place of its composition, in recent times the date, in particular, has been called into question by proponents of certain eschatological schemes (primarily forms of preterism) originating in Calvinist theological… <a class="moretag" href="https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/wholecounsel/2021/07/19/when-and-where-was-revelation-written/">  <i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </a><p>An <a href="https://blogs.ancientfaith.com">Ancient Faith Blog</a></p>]]></description>

																								<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1650" src="https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/wholecounsel/wp-content/uploads/sites/37/2021/07/R-1.jpg" alt="" width="325" height="505" />In the previous <a href="https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/wholecounsel/2021/07/03/john-the-presbyter-eusebius-imaginary-friend/">post</a>, Eusebius of Caesarea&#8217;s attempt to divide out a second &#8220;Elder John&#8221; other than St. John the son of Zebedee was discussed.  He confabulated this figure in order to be able to utilize early patristic testimony to St. John, son of Zebedee as the author of the Gospel and First Epistle while rejecting the same testimony regarding the authorship of Revelation.  This despite the fathers in question making no such distinction between two Johns.  Despite St. Irenaeus of Lyons, St. John&#8217;s spiritual grandson, giving the date and place of its composition, in recent times the date, in particular, has been called into question by proponents of certain eschatological schemes (primarily forms of preterism) originating in Calvinist theological circles.  Holders of these views propose a date based on nothing in the earliest testimony of the fathers and church tradition but in keeping with a dedication to a certain view of biblical inerrancy rendered important by <em>sola scriptura</em> and a belief in cessationism.  Theological motivations aside, there is no reason to disregard the testimony of the early church on these matters, nor to propose another dating system based purely on conjecture as there are no valid objections to the received tradition.</p>
<p>Despite third and fourth-century considerations of authorship, the date and place of origin of the text of the book of Revelation were considered established from an early period.  The earliest references to Revelation and its Johannine origin all center around the area of Asia Minor surrounding Ephesus, and in attributing the work to St. John, most often do so through the testimony of St. Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna at the end of the first and beginning of the second centuries.  This St. John who was buried at Ephesus was the teacher of St. Polycarp and Sts. Irenaeus and Papias in particular attribute their teaching and testimony in this regard to him.  The seven churches to whom the letters in the second and third chapters, and through them the book as a whole, are addressed all had the church of Ephesus as a center of gravity.</p>
<p>The importance of Ephesus to the broader Christian community is evident from the Acts of the Apostles and the Pauline letter directed to its church.  Additionally, the city was traditionally the habitation of a number of apostles and other early missionaries and eyewitnesses of Christ after the Roman destruction of Jerusalem forced the Christian community to seek a new center of influence.  While the book of Revelation itself places the visions there recorded at Patmos, at which the John who authored it was in exile, it is the general testimony of the early sources that it was composed after a return by the author to Ephesus.<a href="#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1">[1]</a>  Alternately, some modern scholars believe that the visions were recorded by another individual and that the letters to the seven churches and the epilogue which ends the text are the work of that second hand, which wrote at Ephesus.</p>
<p>It is significant that all of the early testimony regarding the book of Revelation in the second century comes from sources connected to Ephesus and its environs in Asia Minor.  In addition to the aforementioned connection to St. Polycarp of Smyrna, St. Justin Martyr likewise passed through Ephesus on his way from Palestine to Rome.<a href="#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2">[2]</a>  The book of Revelation is therefore associated with Ephesus and the surrounding cities not only by its contents but by the point of origin of those first seen to be using it as an authoritative text.  This association, though Ephesus was an early apostolic center, cut both ways, as Montanism was widely known as “the Phrygian heresy”.  The chiliastic element of Montanism may, in fact, result from its place of origin rather than any innate connection in thinking between that view and Montanist principles.  It can be observed that the second and third-century writers who first utilized the book of Revelation also held to forms of chiliasm themselves, implying that the view had a general currency in Western Asia Minor.  Despite the controversy regarding these views, the area of origin of the book of Revelation was not called into question by proponents or opponents of the work.</p>
<p>Likewise, the date of the composition of the text was non-controversial.<a href="#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3">[3]</a>  That it was already being cited authoritatively in the mid-second century implies a date of composition at the conclusion of the first century, if not earlier.<a href="#_ftn4" name="_ftnref4">[4]</a>  Whether or not a date near the end of the second century was commensurate with authorship by St. John the son of Zebedee or required a John who was a member of the second generation of Christians was not discussed by Eusebius or those who utilized his theory thereafter during the period of canon formation, though it has been a subject of inquiry for modern scholars.<a href="#_ftn5" name="_ftnref5">[5]</a>  Instead, early iconographic depictions of St. John, the son of Zebedee’s literary efforts typically depict an elderly man, implying that the relative date of composition was considered established, and the apostle’s age was adjusted accordingly to fit that timeline.</p>
<p>In light of a date c. AD 95, it was, for a considerable time, assumed that the exile of John on Patmos took place as a part of generalized widespread persecution of Christians under the emperor Domitian.  More recently, it has become clear that such generalized persecution did not occur at that time in Roman history, but this is not strictly relevant to the dating of the composition of the book of Revelation, as the book itself made no such claim.<a href="#_ftn6" name="_ftnref6">[6]</a>  Exile on Patmos could have easily been the result of localized government persecution of Christian communities in Asia Minor, which took place sporadically throughout the period.  This would also serve to explain the eventual return to Ephesus.</p>
<p>One means which has been used to attempt to pinpoint the composition of the text has revolved around understanding the symbolism of Revelation 17:10–11 and the seven kings described therein as specific Roman emperors.<a href="#_ftn7" name="_ftnref7">[7]</a>  Other symbols used as evidence regarding the date of composition include the ascribed number of the beast, 666, which is generally taken to be derived, by way of numerology, from the title transliterated into Hebrew script, “Nrn Qsr”.<a href="#_ftn8" name="_ftnref8">[8]</a>  While some scholars have used this to argue that the book of Revelation must have been composed at an even earlier date, during the reign of Nero and therefore before the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem, this identification does not necessitate such an early date.<a href="#_ftn9" name="_ftnref9">[9]</a></p>
<p>Though Nero was long dead by the year 95, there was current at the end of the first century a belief in a reported prophecy regarding Nero’s return from either apparent or actual death somewhere in Asia Minor or elsewhere in the East.  This belief is attested to by Dio Chrysostom c. AD 88 in his Discourse XXI, “On Beauty”, showing it to be roughly contemporary with an AD 95 date of composition for the book of Revelation.<a href="#_ftn10" name="_ftnref10">[10]</a>  Understanding the identification of the beast with Nero based on this legend of Nero not only allows for the identification with a late first-century date but serves to further interpret the description of the beast within the text.  Specifically, it explains the significance of the fact that the beast is said to have recovered from a seemingly mortal wound in Revelation 13:3 and that the eighth king in 17:8–11 is identified as also being one of the previous seven.<a href="#_ftn11" name="_ftnref11">[11]</a></p>
<p>Another argument offered for an earlier date is based on the description of heavenly worship in the fourth and fifth chapters of the book of Revelation.  This worship is clearly portrayed in terms reminiscent of that taking place in the Jerusalem temple.  It is then argued that if the temple had already been destroyed, the description of worship would have differed.<a href="#_ftn12" name="_ftnref12">[12]</a>  It must also be noted, however, that the descriptions of heavenly worship in these chapters of Revelation are also consistent with depictions of heavenly worship in the Hebrew Bible (eg. Is 6).  The worship of tabernacle and temple were also taken to be an image of and participation in the worship of heaven (eg. Heb 9).  The descriptions of the book of Revelation, therefore, do not require the earthly temple to still be in existence.  If the temple no longer existed at the time of composition, the descriptions become a witness that the worship of God in the heavens has continued unabated despite the destruction of the earthly sanctuary.  This failed objection also raises the question as to how heavenly worship would be portrayed if not in the likeness of the tabernacle and temple?</p>
<p>No other book of the New Testament is as clearly dated by the fathers of the Church as Revelation, nor is the provenance of any other as clearly and unanimously established.  Other than a need to preserve theological commitments developed centuries later, there is no good reason to doubt this testimony.  The idea that those who lived within the living memory of the apostles, who were taught at the place of Revelation&#8217;s composition, who were the first to view and cite the text as authoritative, would have all come to similar conjectures without knowledge or all colluded in a lie as to when and where the text was written, or by whom, beggars belief.  That this would have happened and that modern scholars, living centuries after the fact, in other languages and cultures, far removed from any living memory of the apostles and their teachings would be able to correct them, and reliably reconstructed the &#8220;hidden&#8221; truth, is near ridiculous.</p>
<p>Footnotes:</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1">[1]</a> Adela Yarbro Collins. &#8220;Dating the Apocalypse of John.&#8221; <em>Biblical Research</em> 26 (1981): 33.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2">[2]</a> Justin’s <em>Dialogue with Trypho</em> is set at Ephesus.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref3" name="_ftn3">[3]</a> Thomas B. Slater, &#8220;Dating the Apocalypse to John.&#8221; <em>Biblica</em> 84, no. 2 (2003): 252.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref4" name="_ftn4">[4]</a> Irenaeus, as an early witness, places the composition of the book of Revelation at the end of the first century in Domitian’s reign.  <em>Adversus Haeresies</em>, 5.30.3.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref5" name="_ftn5">[5]</a> Collins, “Dating”, 34.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref6" name="_ftn6">[6]</a> Mark W. Wilson, &#8220;The Early Christians in Ephesus and the Date of Revelation, Again.&#8221; <em>Neotestamentica</em> 39, no. 1 (2005): 181.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref7" name="_ftn7">[7]</a> Wilson, “Date”, 177f.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref8" name="_ftn8">[8]</a> In this instance, the early text variant which gives the number as 616 is not an obstacle, as when the Latin form of the same title, “Nro Qsr” is transliterated into Hebrew characters it yields 616 by the same use of <em>gematria</em>.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref9" name="_ftn9">[9]</a> Wilson, “Date”, 181–182.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref10" name="_ftn10">[10]</a> Other early witnesses to this belief include the Sybilline Oracles (IV–V).  Tacitus (<em>Histories</em> II.8) and Suetonius (LVII) record rebellions that occurred surrounding men who emerged claiming to be Nero returned from the dead.  This myth had such power in the Roman mind that Augustine (<em>Civitas Dei</em> XX.19.3), at the beginning of the fifth century, records that there were still many who believed that Nero would return to retake his kingdom, either as a savior of the Roman state, or as the Antichrist.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref11" name="_ftn11">[11]</a> Hans-Josef Klauck. &#8220;Do They Never Come Back?: Nero Redivivus and the Apocalypse of John.&#8221; <em>The Catholic Biblical Quarterly</em> 63, no. 4 (October 2001): 691–697.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref12" name="_ftn12">[12]</a> Slater, “Dating”, 255.</p>
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