{"id":1783,"date":"2012-02-25T17:46:18","date_gmt":"2012-02-25T22:46:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/roadsfromemmaus.org\/?p=1783"},"modified":"2012-02-25T17:46:18","modified_gmt":"2012-02-25T22:46:18","slug":"evangelical-lent-redux","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ancientfaith.com\/asd\/2012\/02\/25\/evangelical-lent-redux\/","title":{"rendered":"Evangelical Lent Redux"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"\/asd\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/02\/lentband.gif?w=300\" class=\"aligncenter\" width=\"382\" height=\"292\" \/><br \/>\n<i>In my <a href=\"http:\/\/roadsfromemmaus.org\/2012\/02\/24\/giving-up-something-for-lent\/\">previous post<\/a>, a comment from a Protestant <a href=\"http:\/\/roadsfromemmaus.org\/2012\/02\/24\/giving-up-something-for-lent\/#comment-1559\">challenged me<\/a> to argue for Lent purely from Scripture, also saying that his own experience of Lent, like Mark Galli&#8217;s, was pretty miserable.  That led me to consider that I actually had left several important things out in the previous post, most especially touching upon the question of the dualism of Evangelicals and what that might do to their appropriation of Lent.  Following is my response to that comment, which I thought merited a post of its own:<\/i><\/p>\n<p>If you want for me to reconstruct Lent using only a sort of &#8220;raw&#8221; reading of the Scriptures (i.e., without reference to any interpretive tradition), of course that is impossible.  But then again, so are things like having an annual festal celebration of the Resurrection (Easter) or Christ&#8217;s birth (Christmas), weekly worship services on Sunday morning, and Sunday School.<\/p>\n<p>But that takes us rather to a more basic question, which is on what authority any Christian does anything at all.  You want me to show you everything from the Scriptures, but that begs a deeper question&mdash;Whose interpretation of them should we use?  There is no such thing as a truly raw reading of the Bible.  Every text has a context, and major element of the context of reading a text is the tradition in which one is reading it, even if that tradition is something as elementary as what language one happens to know.  But of course Biblical interpretation involves a whole lot more than that, and the historic fact that Church tradition actually preceded, generated and defined the Scripture complicates matters even further.<\/p>\n<p>But anyway, probably the deeper issue here is that the &#8220;Lent&#8221; you as a Protestant have experienced is quite different from the experience I as an Orthodox Christian also call &#8220;Lent.&#8221; Whatever combination of fasting, abstinence, church services, devotions and confession you may be doing is not the same as what I&#8217;m doing.  We are using the same word to refer to two different things.  You don&#8217;t mention what kind of Protestant you are, but there really is no parallel between anything in Protestantism and the Orthodox Christian experience of this season.  Even fasting alone&mdash;though it could theoretically involve the exact same prescriptions in terms of types and amounts of food eaten&mdash;is a totally different experience.<\/p>\n<p>Why is this?  It is because of the dualism of Protestantism, its inner feeling that physical matter has nothing really to do with holiness or the spiritual life at all.  So physical practices can never really be more than self-discipline or pure memorial.  It can only be about thinking and feeling, because Protestants see no link between the body&#8217;s efforts and the soul&#8217;s salvation.<\/p>\n<p>But for the Orthodox Christian, physical matter is precisely the stuff by which our salvation was accomplished, because God became man, and He really suffered in the flesh, and He really <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=John%206:48-58&amp;version=NKJV\" rel=\"nofollow\">says we have to eat His flesh and drink His blood<\/a>, or else we have no life in us.  And of course the Bible itself is filled with all sorts of spiritual significance for physical matter, not just for healing of death and disease, but also for the engendering of faith and holiness.  So it makes sense to us that asceticism and sacrament should be a normal part of our lives.<\/p>\n<p>In short, an &#8220;argument&#8221; for Lent to a dualistic Christian from a non-dualistic Christian will never make sense.  There are no shared assumptions.  Lent for the Orthodox is something we do within and guided by the Orthodox Church.  It is not a set of autonomously operating spiritual disciplines that will operate outside of the actual community of the Church that was founded by the Apostles.  Protestants don&#8217;t have that, and they generally don&#8217;t want it, so it makes little sense for them to want to appropriate something that comes from within that context.  (Mind you, I would argue that it therefore also makes little sense that they would accept the Scriptures, since they were written, compiled and canonized in an ecclesial context they would reject&mdash;bishops, sacraments, asceticism, etc.)<\/p>\n<p>As for fasting and other ascetical practices in the New Testament, I&#8217;m afraid that you&#8217;re not seeing them because your tradition has conditioned you not to see them.  But they&#8217;re really everywhere.  I again recommend <a href=\"http:\/\/www.romanity.org\/htm\/flo.01.en.the_ascetic_ideal_and_the_new_testament.01.htm\" rel=\"nofollow\">this article<\/a> for a detailed, book-by-book examination of asceticism in the New Testament.<\/p>\n<p>Having said all that, though, I honestly think that if you&#8217;ve chosen your spiritual tradition, then trying to add Lent into it where it does not already exist is rather futile.  Grafting an oak onto a willow is just not going to work, and trying to incorporate even a little of the ancient Christian traditions of Lent&mdash;which presuppose a non-dualistic understanding of spirituality&mdash;will only frustrate you.  The context is wrong, and so the results will be distorted.<\/p>\n<p>If, however, your spiritual tradition is something you can highly customize and alter as you go (rather than something to which you are called to be faithful), adding or subtracting spiritual practices as you like, then I don&#8217;t see why you&#8217;d need any authoritative argument at all&mdash;even from Scripture.  Pick what you like.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In my previous post, a comment from a Protestant challenged me to argue for Lent purely from Scripture, also saying that his own experience of Lent, like Mark Galli&#8217;s, was pretty miserable. 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